=We could have any of these nice servers for the same price as 1 of the many replacement parts for the sparcs=
===system comes to $948 if you max out the RAM/HardDrive and care, I've priced a system even nicer than the Dell-serve w/UPS below (as a mac, on macsys.txt).=
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So yes it would be crazy to fully update the sparcs, vs moving on; to a new/easier to use machine.

It turns out that the blades are prices more like sun machines, so not a savings.
A stock machine should do it, but I can still investigate this option,
and I'll put what I find here
The nicer recommended dell system would even do, at 1,035

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  • 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
  • 1GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512MB
  • 80GB Serial ATA drive
  • Combo Drive
  • Mac OS X - U.S. English
  • Accessory kit
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Memory
More memory (RAM) increases performance and enables your computer to perform faster and better. Choose additional 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (PC2-5300) options for your Mac mini.
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1GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512MB
2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB [Add $135]
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Hard Drive
A larger hard drive gives you more space for data and applications. Choose the right capacity for you (options available depend on the Mac mini model you choose).
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80GB Serial ATA drive
120GB Serial ATA drive [Add $68]
160GB Serial ATA drive [Add $135]
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Keyboard & Mouse Sets
Mac mini ships without a keyboard or mouse and allows you to reuse ones you already own or buy any you choose. Or you can purchase an Apple wired or wireless keyboard and mouse set, which will be shipped separately from Mac mini.
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Apple Wireless Keyboard & wireless Mighty Mouse [Add $129]
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Apple Displays
Connect your Mac mini to one of Apple's flat-panel, liquid crystal displays for a gorgeous Mac experience. Each display features an anodized aluminum enclosure, FireWire and USB 2.0 ports, and an industry-standard DVI connector for a direct pure-digital connection. Choose a 20-inch Apple Cinema or 23-inch Cinema HD Display.
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Apple Cinema HD Display (23" flat panel) [Add $799]
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Modem
Easily connect to the Internet using your dial-up service with the Apple USB Modem. Small and light, it connects to the USB port on your Mac mini.
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Apple USB Modem [Add $44]
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Mac OS Language
Your Mac mini displays information in the language that matches the country in which you purchased it. Optional languages, other than your country's default language, may be offered.
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Mac OS X - U.S. English
Mac OS X - Western Spanish
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Apple Software Applications
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iWork '08 preinstalled [Add $39]
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AppleCare Protection Plan (APP)
The AppleCare Protection Plan extends your computer's 90 days of complimentary support and one-year warranty to up to three years of world-class support.
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AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac mini (with Display) - Auto Enroll [Add $99]
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Subtotal Please note that your subtotal does not include sales tax or rebates. $579.00
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===Above system comes to $948 if you max out the RAM/HardDrive and care, I've priced a system even nicer than the Dell-serve w/UPS below (as a mac, on macsys.txt).==

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1. COMPONENTS2. SERVICES & SUPPORT3. REVIEW SUMMARY
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PowerEdge SC440

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Review Your PowerEdge SC440Date & Time: 9/14/2007 7:50:25 PM
 
PowerEdge SC440
Intel® Celeron® Processor 336 at 256K Cache, 2.8GHz, 533MHz FSB, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, x32 and x64, 1-2 socket, 1yr, FI x64
Unit Price: $2,512.00
- $42.38
  SYSTEM OPTIONS
PowerEdge SC440
Intel® Celeron® Processor 336 at 256K Cache, 2.8GHz, 533MHz FSBedit
Memory
4GB DDR2, 667MHz, 4X1GB Dual Ranked DIMMsedit
Operating System
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, x32 and x64, 1-2 socket, 1yr, FI x64edit
O/S Partition
Noneedit
Operating System Addition
Noneedit
Hard Drive Controller
Onboard SATA Controller - No RAIDedit
Hard Drive Configuration
Onboard SATA, 1 Drive connected to Onboard SATA Controller - No RAIDedit
Primary Hard Drive
250GB 7.2K RPM Serial ATA 3Gbps 3.5-in Cabled Hard Drive, Primaryedit
2nd Hard Drive
Noneedit
  NETWORKING OPTIONS
Network Adapter
On-Board Single Gigabit Network Adapteredit
Modem
Noneedit
  STORAGE OPTIONS
Removable Disk and Tape Drives
Noneedit
Tape Backup Software
Noneedit
  SOFTWARE OPTIONS
System Documentation
Electronic Documentation and OpenManage CD Kitedit
  OTHER OPTIONS
Media for Removable Disk (RD1000) and Tape Backup
Noneedit
Additional Documentation
Noneedit
CD/DVD Drive for 2nd Bay
Noneedit
Environmental Options
Noneedit
  SERVICE OPTIONS
Hardware Support Services
3Yr STANDARD SUPPORT: 7x24 Tech HW/SW Support, NBD Onsite After Diagnosisedit
Installation Support Services
No Installation Assessmentedit
Training and Certification
Noneedit
Dell Recycling/Asset Recovery Services
Noneedit
Open Manage Subscription
OpenManage Subscription (8 edition)edit
  OTHER OPTIONS
Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS)
Dell 750VA Uninterruptible Power Supply, Stand Alone, 120vedit
CD/DVD Drive
48X CD-ROM Driveedit
Floppy Drive
No Floppy Driveedit
Keyboard
Keyboard, USB, Blackedit
Monitor
Dell 17 Inch Analog Flat Panel LCD Monitoredit
Mouse
Mechanical Two-button mouse, USB, Blackedit
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===Above system comes to $948 if you max out the RAM/HardDrive and care, I've priced a system even nicer than the Dell-serve w/UPS below (as a mac, on macsys.txt).=
=Here is a discription just of a mac-server on that page:
[A fully loaded MacPro could be had for the price of the suggested new Sun, but w/lots more RAM, disk and more.]

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  • Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
  • 1GB (2 x 512MB)
  • 250GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
  • NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
  • One 16x SuperDrive
  • Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
  • Mac OS X - U.S. English

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Processor
Get 8-core power from two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon “Clovertown” processors, or enjoy quad-core performance with two Dual-Core Intel Xeon “Woodcrest” processors, available in speeds up to 3.0GHz.
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Two 2.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon [Subtract $269]
Two 2.66GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Two 3.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon [Add $719]
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon [Add $1348]
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Memory
Mac Pro systems support up to 16GB of 667MHz DDR2 fully buffered ECC RAM in eight FB-DIMM slots. Choose among a variety of memory amounts and configurations.
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1GB (2 x 512MB)
2GB (4 x 512MB) [Add $269]
4GB (4 x 1GB) [Add $629]
8GB (8 x 1GB) [Add $1529]
8GB (4 x 2GB) [Add $1889]
16GB (8 x 2GB) [Add $4049]
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RAID Card
Enhance storage performance and data protection by configuring your system with the Mac Pro RAID card and multiple hard drives.
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Mac Pro RAID Card [Add $899]
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Hard Drive – Bay 1
Your Mac Pro includes four Serial ATA 3Gb/s hard drive bays, offering up to 3 terabytes of data storage. Configure each drive bay separately.
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250GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s [Add $116]
750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s [Add $269]
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Hard Drive – Bay 2
Configure the second hard drive bay with a 500GB or 750GB drive.

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750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s [Add $449]
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Hard Drive – Bay 3
Configure the third hard drive bay with a 500GB or 750GB drive.

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750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s [Add $449]
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Hard Drive – Bay 4
Configure the fourth hard drive bay with a 500GB or 750GB drive.

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750GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s [Add $449]
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Graphics
Choose from a selection of PCI Express graphics cards from both NVIDIA and ATI, each able to support up to two displays including at least one 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Display. Select a higher-performance card for more advanced graphics work, or add more than one card to power an array of displays simultaneously for visualization projects and large display walls.

Please note: The Mac Pro provides a total of four PCI Express expansion slots. If both the Mac Pro RAID card and Fibre Channel card options are selected, up to two graphics cards may be installed.
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NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB (single-link DVI/dual-link DVI)
2 x NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB [Add $134]
ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB (2 x dual-link DVI) [Add $224]
3 x NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB [Add $269]
4 x NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256MB [Add $404]
NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 512MB, Stereo 3D (2 x dual-link DVI) [Add $1484]
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Display
Visualize your creations on a beautiful Apple LCD display, featuring an anodized aluminum enclosure, FireWire and USB 2.0 ports, and an industry-standard DVI connector for a direct pure-digital connection.
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Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel) [Add $549]
Apple Cinema HD Display (23" flat panel) [Add $799]
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel) [Add $1599]
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Second display
All Mac Pro graphics cards support two Apple displays: a 30-inch and either a 20-inch or 23-inch Apple Cinema Display. To power two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD displays from a single card, you must select the ATI Radeon X1900 XT or NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500.
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Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel) [Add $549]
Apple Cinema HD Display (23" flat panel) [Add $799]
Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel) [Add $1599]
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Optical Drive
Your Mac Pro comes standard with one 16x double-layer SuperDrive that burns and plays both CDs and DVDs. Add a second SuperDrive to streamline disc burning.
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One 16x SuperDrive
Two 16x SuperDrives [Add $89]
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Wireless Options
Configure your Mac Pro with Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and AirPort Extreme wireless to connect to peripherals and networks without wires.

Please note: Selecting an AirPort Extreme card may delay the shipment of your Mac Pro.
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AirPort Extreme card (Wi-fi) [Add $44]
Both Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and AirPort Extreme [Add $71]
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Fibre Channel Card
To connect to an Xserve RAID, you will need a Fibre Channel PCI Express card (host bus adapter).
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Quad-channel 4Gb Fibre Channel PCI Express card [Add $899]
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Modem
Choose the Apple USB Modem to access the Internet using your dial-up service. Small and light, it connects to the USB port on your Mac Pro.
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Apple Keyboard and Mouse
The wired Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse come standard with your Mac Pro. Or you can choose an Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple wireless Mighty Mouse, which require the Bluetooth 2.0+EDR module.
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Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - Western Spanish
Apple Keyboard and Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple wireless Mighty Mouse - U.S. English [Add $53]
Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple wireless Mighty Mouse - Western Spanish [Add $53]
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Mac OS X language
Your Mac Pro typically ships with an operating system that matches the official language of the country in which you purchased it. However, you can also choose an operating system that displays information in a different language, if available in your country.
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Mac OS X - U.S. English
Mac OS X - Western Spanish
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Mac OS X Server v10.4
Apple now offers 100% native Mac OS X Server v10.4 as a preinstalled option, updating the Mac OS X v10.4 “Tiger” client to a full, server operating system. With Mac OS X Server v10.4, Apple has integrated popular open source software technologies and created innovative management tools to make it easy to provide powerful standards-based server solutions. Choose either the 10-Client license or Unlimited license of Apple’s award-winning UNIX-based server operating system.
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Mac OS X Server (10-Client) [Add $249]
Mac OS X Server (Unlimited-Client) [Add $499]
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Apple Software
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iWork '08 preinstalled [Add $39]
Aperture 1.5 preinstalled [Add $99]
Final Cut Express HD preinstalled [Add $99]
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AppleCare Protection Plan (APP)
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AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro (w/o Display) - Auto Enroll [Add $199]
AppleCare Protection Plan for Mac Pro (with Display) - Auto Enroll [Add $199]
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Subtotal Please note that your subtotal does not include sales tax or rebates. $2,299.00
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==I suggest more RAM, can cut back on processor, extend warenty, Still be better than the upgraded suns for < 3k

In fact the featured product sheet says:
Mac Pro Quad 2.0GHz to 3.0Ghz Millions of custom configurations,up to 16GB memory, up to four 500GB hard drives and more. save $2100 off Apple Retail on Mac Pro up to AS LOW AS $1962

Also note that the new OS (next month) could obviate he need for a versioning system; as it will be built in for all files, and you can fly back in time; (well it doesn't give merging, but the basic/stnd rc-systems don't either); and I don't think we will work on the same file at the same time much anyway.
The only place for multi use is the KB which we should start editing w/Protege.