>can you please send me an email (not IM) summarizing where we are with each of our machines, >Arches, etc. currently. and then what you propose (if you're there already) > or what you still need resolved to be able to move ahead. Here is a quick summary that I can expand on: Update: Ben said the (old)hard-drives are 7200-rpm&the (new) are 10k-rpm. ¬ what I've stated below, although I didn't thinkg I stated it below. The only other listing I ever sent was output from a script he had around. -Also, the only mention I ever made was that we couldn't get the faster drives. Oh, I finally realized, he was confused by the uname output; that isn't the hd-speed. -Ben said: "there was an indication that there was no functional difference between the existing and proposed (purchased) drives.." I thought I had only stated that we couldn't get faster drives(&that they are insanely expensive); Sorry if I hinted that faster ones where available, I only thought Ben mentioned that once in an email. -Chris from helio only thought we could get the same speed, but Ben (did in fact) find faster ones. =when the machines are updated, I'll let Ben update the machine inventory. 1new: X6742A 73GB 10K-RPM 1 FC-AL DISK $2,501.00 for arches ;yet to be installed Identified via uname -a output; =Suns= Machine: ====SunOS rctbank 5.8 Generic_117350-15 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 Still used for production. Running solaris8, &maybe old ACL, as new acl needs at least os9. ====SunOS arches 5.11 snv_73 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 Just came online. Has cmucl, but no ACL yet. os10 ok, OpenSolaris better. Ben said he would move files over; Then I can see what production files are. -1new: X6742A 73GB 10K-RPM 1 FC-AL DISK $2,501.00 ;yet to be installed ====SunOS kepes 5.9 Generic_117171-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-30 Hasn't been touched by anyone else in awhile. Partitions are off? I'd like to upgrade it at some point. It does have acl8. - I think they each have 73G drives, already at max speed & max 2Gb RAM. If Ben thinks he can get ebay cpu-bump&that would help for a yr; then ok. I've tried to put other software that was say necessary for bugzilla, or just generally helpful, but this isn't as easy to do as w/Linux|OSX. [Re: getting vnc&related to connect is difficult;While it works w/PC.] The machines are EOL, &are definitely a waste of any serious upgrade $s. I'm not sure there (pressing) need to be replaces though. If Ben thinks it needs it now, then buy some time for <1k, but otherwise anything more would definitely be a waste of money. We can talk about which new machine(s) to get when, &how to work them in. Sys.htm had a dell &macs. We shoud chat more about needs/.. - =Other= == Dell PC running XP, has: =CYGWIN_NT-5.1 ucsf-0508d19959 1.5.24(0.156/4/2) 2007-01-31 10:57 Cygwin =Linux debian 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 .. i686 GNU/Linux (via VMware) Cygwin helps, Linux as well (maybe better as dual boot as a server?) =update=now: Linux sim-dell 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Wed Oct 10 06:00:47 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux ==Darwin wsp018068wss.ucsf.edu 5.5 Darwin Kernel Version 5.5: .. PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.42.3.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc Too old/limited for newest os-x, but could benefit from Linux (w/osx) Which I could put on today. I'd really like to try a dual-core os-x box w/ram, someday&will at some point w/my next laptop. =Summary= (re: >what you propose ) -Quickly, for myself, I'd like to know where all the production code is & how to run it. I'd like to find out how to admin the suns so we can reach net services like vnc. If we use ACL, I'd like to use 8.1, so we could try allegro-store/graph. This means updating the os on some of the boxes; I could do this to kepes after a backup. If I have to admin, I'd prefer os-x then linux. I think ACL(-ide)are just as stable on the same Intell chips; but usability is better w/os-x. Depending on what we are going to do, we might want to use more RAM, which means going to the school store to get a dell-server &/or mac-pro (@some point) both of which can get enough RAM. The only benefit that I can see from getting one now, is the ease of administration. Update: Actually, if they are really going to be servers dell&apple also make blades. ps. If I got a new Intel-Duo MacBookPro w/4Gb RAM next month w/the new UNIX OS I wouldn't need anything. -I can't say I should do that yet though. So can ssh in for some of the testing. I'm not sure what our hit-rate is, what it is expected to be; how much reasoning we will pass off, etc.etc. So can't say our machine needs yet; But can as I become more familiar w/these needs.